From: "Mark Henigan" Received: from [192.168.100.201] (HELO mail.2rosenthals.com) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.3) with ESMTP id 1700911 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:03:04 -0500 Received-SPF: none (secmgr-ny.randr: 69.147.64.91 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of sbcglobal.net) client-ip=69.147.64.91; envelope-from=driven_zen@sbcglobal.net; helo=smtp118.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com; Received: from smtp118.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([69.147.64.91]) by secmgr-ny.randr with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JOnHk-0000wg-Eh for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:02:30 -0500 Received: (qmail 16151 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2008 05:02:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:X-Accept-Language:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=uB/rohoJzMSg79nV80Pjj8r8O7/J6F9bBsBHfCisIjn0GP6xWh9vzXYH83DKrTfYGDBtD+8xNjaWU/dijqRWtciQgtj1EGzHH/QEOmxozA2y3uOJZLQVO6xcRQnY6GnVy79r8PQa+Uca7qESiLbMVi2aULNj9xU3jp5zDaI7iPA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?69.225.236.90?) (driven_zen@sbcglobal.net@69.225.236.90 with plain) by smtp118.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 2008 05:02:11 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: j05abTwVM1ndAMBFPjJ7pQayrzkcgS7PXiqLOsmKxk6h9O2hrHrXW2l8f_NkPh37y_ZETGxW6w-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <47B1288E.40206@sbcglobal.net> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:03:10 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050922 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, cs MIME-Version: 1.0 To: OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless] VOT (very off-topic) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: _SUMMARY_ Will Honea wrote: > ** Reply to message from "Mark Henigan" on > Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:29:27 -0800 > > > >>I think I need to describe the situation a little >>more clearly, given your reply and several others. > > > Not to beat a dead horse, Mark, but are you SURE that the phone company only > ran two wires? Virtually every piece of their wiring I've looked at is at > least 4-wire (2 pairs) and most, if not all, the whoie house installations wre > either 4 or 8 pair bundles in a continuous loop from the service entrance > around the building back to service entrance. They may have gotten really > cheap in the last few years, but I would still bet on at least 4 wires - a lot > of their extra service oprions require 2 pairs, so that's what they use. Be > worth a littel more investiagtion - you may have everything you need already, > especially if the house is more that 5-6 years old. Hello Will: I haven't seen more than two wires per line in years in residential installations; and, that is all they gave me. I made a couple of primitive adapters with a little heat- shrinkable tubing to cover the majority of the length of the four wires that run with the foil shield on some coax I salvaged. I also covered the point where the main plastic insulation was cut to inhibit the passage of moisture (trivially). I have a large spool of high quality coax that I could have used. But, I let my "waste not, want not" tendencies to take over. I installed it with a little stretching at one end due to underestimating the distance between terminal screws. I also forgot to get a grounding F-F pass-through connector. I'll get one and install it by this weekend, so long as there is no significant current to ground, something I'll check before making the connection. The connection is marred by intermittent crackling static that is never loud enough to interfere with conversation and will likely disappear after I ground the coax. It's no worse than many of the lines I've used in businesses. The amplitude/volume is good. After some thought, I concluded that the ring tone was unlikely to cause any problems based on its voltage because it is both brief and intermittent, and is probably at a low enough current to not heat the wire of the coax. After all, the wire used in telephone connections is tiny. I think it's going to be fine, despite its theoretical inadequacies. Thanks for your thoughts and your experience from a time when things weren't being done quite as cheaply. - Mark Mark Henigan --