From: "Andy Willis" Received: from [192.168.100.201] (HELO mail.2rosenthals.com) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTP id 2551011 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:38:45 -0400 Received: from static-71-171-102-26.clppva.fios.verizon.net ([71.171.102.26] helo=mail2.2rosenthals.com) by secmgr-ny.randr with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.43) id 1MI4WW-0007uH-7c for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:38:45 -0400 Received: from mail-px0-f197.google.com ([209.85.216.197]:57713) by mail2.2rosenthals.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MI4WQ-00066I-0Y for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:38:34 -0400 Received: by pxi35 with SMTP id 35so663834pxi.23 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:38:32 -0700 (PDT) X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A010209.4A3D1E9A.0110,ss=1,fgs=0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=r6pMtqRFTQt2R2BHhLJKbDy1C78MJxG5nD/6pCRPADA=; b=iYTDOJo1PEGOWR1zcUJiains+oEJ3Yff66LS8BVApORrTK3tPkCgR8oTHl7d/pOfvA 0k5VF6mbB15NjQI00pvRGoj6bLBBFfXapI3xIE4fACBvsCMbj9tEY6XWmcW+zXmkXP5W aMInkF5ssPCYXRSQBPvbX0FoDUXHW31PVN5ms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fyE9HEDiq4lX8eMrEU3n4lMfd+xasAZma201L8X1/BFloOSHiUA6JlurgbZ+LeRes+ UP32lUf+QUchXm8mgUFSGN6EccEdnVS6xhFfPZ+OoRTqYZW+BkMwW+X2i1WI1wqsS8lT iRh+T+4oFnpHmd0BlSVtvFDvDXUdM/KiXpFOE= Received: by 10.142.147.15 with SMTP id u15mr1896747wfd.152.1245519512587; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.3? (71-208-191-184.hlrn.qwest.net [71.208.191.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm736815wfd.39.2009.06.20.10.38.31 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A3D1E96.1040003@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:38:30 -0600 Reply-To: abwillis1@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; U; Warp 4.5; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20090216 SeaMonkey/2.0a3pre not(Firefox/3.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless] Re: Very basic wireless question References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 2.4 (++) X-Spam-Report: 1.0 RCVD_BY_IP Received by mail server with no name 1.4 DNS_FROM_RFC_POST RBL: Envelope sender in postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org Mark Henigan wrote: > Chuck McKinnis wrote: >> Mark Henigan wrote: >> >>> Chuck McKinnis wrote: >>> >>>> Mark Henigan wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm attempting to select a T43p and am concerned that >>>>> I don't really understand 802.11 compatibility. It is >>>>> obvious that a machine with 802.11abg hardware is >>>>> compatible with wireless connection points/routers/etc >>>>> that use any of these protocols. But, if a laptop is >>>>> stated to have only 802.11g would it be able to connect >>>>> to other hardware that was only 802.11b compatible, for >>>>> example? In otherwords, can the 802.11abg fall back to >>>>> the other protocols on its own, while the 802.11g would >>>>> depend on the other end of a connection to include its >>>>> protocol? >>>>> >>>>> I look forward to your answer(s). >>>>> >>>>> Thank you! >>>>> >>>>> - Mark >>>>> >>>>> Mark Henigan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Some T43 models had 802.11bg and some had 802.11abg. I don't know >>>> of any that had only 802.11g. >>> >>> >>> Hello Chuck: >>> >>> I couldn't find it in the ltwbook, etc. So, I emailed >>> the seller who assured me that it is so-designated. >>> >>>> Are you in the states? >>> >>> >>> Sort of. I live in California, if that qualifies me. :-> >>> >>>> If so, drop me an email before you buy. Friends of IBMers (active >>>> and retired) can get a pretty good price on an IBM refurbished T43. >>> >>> >>> When I get focussed on one or two I'll forward you >>> the eBay URLs. >>> >>> Thank you for your help! >>> >>> - Mark >>> >>> Mark Henigan >> >> >> You might want to take a look here, but you cannot get in without an >> IBM serial number and name. Send me an email if you would like to go >> browsing. I don't want to publish the name and number to a newsgroup. >> >> http://www-132.ibm.com/content/home/store_eppus/en_US/epplogin.html > > Hello Chuck: > > I looked at > > Home > Notebook > Refurbished > ThinkPad T Series > > but found not one T43p. T61 was the bottom of the > line. Was I looking in the wrong place? I need a > T43p or older to maintain compatibility with my > docking stations. > > Did I go to the right section? > > Thank You! > > - Mark > > Mark Henigan I see 10 T43s, a T43p, and some T42s and even a T41 (in fact, I only see one T60 and one X60). After you logon to the page Chuck sent... Click on Notebooks (about the middle of the page). If you somehow ended up at the "Clearance Corner" then I only see 60's there. But I can get a lower price on the new T400s than I can on the 60s at the "Clearance Corner" (haven't gotten my hands on one long enough yet to see if I can load eCS on a T400). Andy