X-Account-Key: account1 X-UIDL: 25415 X-Mozilla-Keys: Return-Path: os2-wireless_users-owner@2rosenthals.com Received: from 192.168.100.5 (hawking [192.168.100.5]) by 2rosenthals.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) id 20040909154745-1849-7 ; Thu, 09 Sep 2004 15:47:48 -0400 (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) id 20040909154725-26700-8 ; Thu, 09 Sep 2004 15:47:27 -0400 Received: from mx1.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.170]) by mxout2.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1C5Ut1-000Mb3-O4 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Thu, 09 Sep 2004 15:47:21 -0400 Received: from pop3.toast.net ([206.244.186.20] helo=MAIL03.toast.net) by mx1.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1C5Ut1-000Asw-CI; Thu, 09 Sep 2004 15:47:15 -0400 Received: from [68.246.84.18] (unverified [68.246.84.18]) by MAIL03.toast.net (Vircom SMTPRS 3.1.297.0) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 15:45:42 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: SnapperMail 2.0.3.09 by Snapperfish, www.snappermail.com Message-ID: <1233-SnapperMsg4EDDFFFDBD66639E@68.246.84.18> In-Reply-To: References: <1133-SnapperMsg4EDDFFFDBD663163@68.246.84.18> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS.org X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 15:46 -0400 Sender: os2-wireless_users-owner X-Listname: os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com Reply-To: os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com From: Lewis G Rosenthal To: os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com Subject: [OS2Wireless] Not associated! X-List-Unsubscribe: Send email to mailusers-request@2rosenthals.com X-List-Owner: mailusers-owner@2rosenthals.com Yes, the performance & range hit is measurable. That said, you might not see it unless you're moving files on the LAN and/or you need the extra range afforded by using no encryption. We really do need EAP/LEAP/WPA support, as even WEP doesn't provide the level of security most people need today. ___ Lewis ___ Lewis G Rosenthal Rosenthal & Rosenthal Sent via SnapperMail ...... Original Message ....... On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 15:31:45 -0300 "Mark Dodel" wrote: >In <1133-SnapperMsg4EDDFFFDBD663163@68.246.84.18>, on 09/09/04 at 12:03 >PM, > Lewis G Rosenthal said: > >>As a security measure, however, Mark, this (MAC address filtering) is >>relatively weak. Some basic sniffing will reveal the associated MACs >>(which traverse the air in clear text). After that, it's simply a matter >>of spoofing one to get connected. Obviously, if there's already an IP >>assigned to that MAC, there will be some connectivity issues, but when >>your legitimate hardware is offline, someone else may freely connect >>(and you'll become quite frustrated with your on again/off again >>connectivity). > >I do realize that, but I've never done much other then mess with WEP and >could never get it to work (though that was with the original Cisco >driver). I keep meaning to revisit WEP, but I hear there is a large >performance penalty wth it. > > >Mark > >-- > > From the eComStation Desktop of: Mark Dodel > > Warpstock 2004, Denver, Colorado, October 21 - 24, 2004 http://www.warpstock.org > Warpstock Europe 2004, Arnhem, The Netherlands, November 26-28th, 2004 http://www.warpstock.net > >For a choice in the future of personal computing, Join VOICE - http://www.os2voice.org > > "The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That in it's essence, is Fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group or by any controlling private power." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Message proposing the Monopoly Investigation, 1938 > > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to >steward@2rosenthals.com with the command >"unsubscribe os2-wireless_users" in the body >(omit the quotes). > >For help with other commands, send a message >to steward@2rosenthals.com with the command >"help" in the body (omit the quotes). > >This list is hosted by Rosenthal & Rosenthal >P.O. Box 281, Deer Park, NY 11729-0281. Non- >electronic communications related to content >contained in these messages should be directed >to the above address. (CAN-SPAM Act of 2003) > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to steward@2rosenthals.com with the command "unsubscribe os2-wireless_users" in the body (omit the quotes). For help with other commands, send a message to steward@2rosenthals.com with the command "help" in the body (omit the quotes). This list is hosted by Rosenthal & Rosenthal P.O. Box 281, Deer Park, NY 11729-0281. Non- electronic communications related to content contained in these messages should be directed to the above address. (CAN-SPAM Act of 2003) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=