From: "Lewis G Rosenthal" Received: from [192.168.100.201] (account lgrosenthal HELO [192.168.100.21]) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.3) with ESMTPA id 1864860 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:09:52 -0400 Message-ID: <480519A2.7060803@2rosenthals.com> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:09:54 -0400 Organization: Rosenthal & Rosenthal, LLC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080326 MultiZilla/1.8.3.4e SeaMonkey/1.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless] New mailing list for ThinkPad T60 & T61 eCS users References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 04/15/08 04:47 pm, Ed Durrant thus wrote : > Neil Waldhauer wrote: >> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:22:44 -0400, "Lewis G Rosenthal" >> wrote: >> >> >>> If you have a T30 and an X31, then the T60/T61 list isn't the one >>> for you, as neither are dual core machines, and neither are >>> ACPI-based (AFAIK). Like my T43, both of those systems are already >>> well-supported, so there would be little point in sharing >>> experiences with ACPI on unrelated models. >>> >> >> I'd be interested in buying a T61 or newer if the support issues are >> worked >> out. Right now, I have enough issues with other computers that I >> don't need any >> new projects. But when everything is worked out, and I expect it to >> be, soon, >> I'm in. What I'd really like is a summary of how to set one up -- after >> everything is working. >> >> Neil >> > > I personally would not recommend buying a T61 - I have one from work > and, even running Windoze XP, it is a problem. I get hangs, slow > access to HD and several other apparent problems (bad RJ45 socket > etc.). When compared to my previous works T42, it's not the same build > quality level. Sure it's got a widescreen, but it's actually smaller > that the "standard shaped" screen on the T42 as it's simply still as > wide but not as tall. This makes getting the correct balance of icon > and text size versus maxuimum screen content difficult. Who makes a > business laptop widescreen anyway ? Widescreen is for playing DVD > movies - I know of know of no other reason to have widescreen and > which employer supplies their employees with a laptop so they can play > DVD movies all day rather than work ? > > So for me it's about a 2 out of 10 for the T61 as opposed to 7 out of > 10 for the T42 and 8 out of 10 for the earlier R31, 9 out of ten for > the T30 and T20 series ! > > Just my personal ratings from using these systems. > PMFJI - Ed, you may have gotten a lemon. I find overall the quality of the T61 to be superior to the T60 (though the jury is still out as to whether it is actually better made than my T43 - heck, the price was less than half of mine). I deployed some quirky T60's, but I haven't had a T61 come back to me yet. As for widescreen, while I personally prefer 4:3 on the computer, many desktop systems are shipping with widescreens these days - and again, I can't imagine why. I actually get requests from business laptop users for new notebooks with "the biggest widescreen (I) can get." The allure of the T60 and T61 - for me, at least - is the dual core CPU and the much better battery life. Anyway, just another couple of cents to drop in the bucket for Neil. ;-) -- Lewis ------------------------------------------------------------ Lewis G Rosenthal, CNA, CLP, CLE Rosenthal & Rosenthal, LLC Accountants / Network Consultants New York / Northern Virginia www.2rosenthals.com eComStation Consultants www.ecomstation.com Novell Users Int'l www.novell.com/openenterpriseserver Need a managed Wi-Fi hotspot? www.hautspot.com ------------------------------------------------------------