From: "Rick R." Received: from mxout3.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.167] verified) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTP id 339739 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:29:58 -0400 Received: from mxin2.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.176]) by mxout3.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GLOdQ-000ND4-7e for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:29:58 -0400 Received: from web60620.mail.yahoo.com ([209.73.178.188]) by mxin2.mailhop.org with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GLOdP-00032H-3G for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:29:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 60158 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Sep 2006 18:29:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=dELETkb2c6uWtpaZ9ssa0VqqD5WgZ33Zyj/6l3Epv1Oc3qCvN1A2B3nqbwXexAe3kWTJYW3RSJrytgNu3P6sFLXL4tz4xmzOQUy0R2hGD+qdcdNIm7t3L+zf5GFDfw4nccSiRxolwderUTwtxwcsuM6xs0RLysSNkTvbgn7nWSc= ; Message-ID: <20060907182944.60156.qmail@web60620.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.170.240.130] by web60620.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:29:44 PDT Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless]Re: Satellite providers (Was Hotspots: Play-for-Fee vs Play-for-Free) To: OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-8174334-1157653784=:59527" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) --0-8174334-1157653784=:59527 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Inviting the whole Internet to attack your system is a DUMB thing to do Mr. Really, realy realy DUMB! I'm not even sure I want to participate in a mailing list that invites such hack attacks. And you can take that firewall and sell it to the folks on the dark side of the moon, after they cracked your TCP/IP stack wide open. Do you even know that TCP/IP stack attacks which exploit buffer overuns or send illegal packages can crack your system wide open way before your firewall even gets a chance to do any filtering?! You think the CIA or NASA don't use firewalls and still they even broke into their systems! Be careful who you're messing with Mr. Besides your run of the mill script kiddies, there are also real Black Hats out there and we in the OS/2 community should not try to draw their attention to us. I read many of their exploits and the amount of low level knowledge these folks have and the vulnerabillity of TCP/IP to attack is frightening! Dunhill Satellite Systems wrote: Lewis G Rosenthal wrote: > > Arjan, I don;t know that inviting people to portscan you is really the > thing you want to do with public mailng list archives, nor do I think > should you post explicit servcices you're running on the network... :-) they try to do it anyway, but there is a firewall in between :) ====================================================== *Dunhill Systems*, USA, The Satellite Specialists for the Carribean UnaSat, Nera, Idirect and Direcway Certified Installers Phone: 352-437-1026 *Brant Systems*, Dominican Republic Registered at INDOTEL Phone: 809-437-8005 Visit our website at: http://www.dunhill.ws =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to Send administrative queries to To subscribe (new addresses), E-mail to: and reply to the confirmation email. This list is hosted by Rosenthal & Rosenthal P.O. Box 281, Deer Park, NY 11729-0281. Non- electronic communications related to content contained in these messages should be directed to the above address. (CAN-SPAM Act of 2003) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. --0-8174334-1157653784=:59527 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Inviting the whole Internet to attack your system is a DUMB thing to do Mr.
Really, realy realy DUMB!
 
I'm not even sure I want to participate in a mailing list that invites such hack attacks.
And you can take that firewall and sell it to the folks on the dark side of the moon, after they cracked your TCP/IP stack wide open.
 
Do you even know that TCP/IP stack attacks which exploit buffer overuns or send illegal packages can crack your system wide open way before your firewall even gets a chance to do any filtering?!
 
You think the CIA or NASA don't use firewalls and still they even broke into their systems!
 
Be careful who you're messing with Mr. Besides your run of the mill script kiddies, there are also real Black Hats out there and we in the OS/2 community should not try to draw their attention to us.
 
I read many of their exploits and the amount of low level knowledge these folks have and the vulnerabillity of TCP/IP to attack is frightening!
 
 


Dunhill Satellite Systems <os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com> wrote:


Lewis G Rosenthal wrote:
>
> Arjan, I don;t know that inviting people to portscan you is really the
> thing you want to do with public mailng list archives, nor do I think
> should you post explicit servcices you're running on the network... :-)
they try to do it anyway, but there is a firewall in between :)



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Phone: 352-437-1026

*Brant Systems*, Dominican Republic
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Phone: 809-437-8005

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