From: "Rick R." Received: from mxout4.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.168] verified) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTP id 329134 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 05:56:37 -0400 Received: from mxin1.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.175]) by mxout4.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GJSEU-00033N-Ou for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 05:56:13 -0400 Received: from web60616.mail.yahoo.com ([209.73.178.184]) by mxin1.mailhop.org with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GJSEU-000BBI-JF for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 05:56:10 -0400 Received: (qmail 44913 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Sep 2006 09:56:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QewwNB16sc+2rrk5EGQZNc2UXTijnm2ov/GL2PDTnvZRc8YejFoEDDSWeTc8zFFmEoC4Sx/aUXlXcPwqXV8JntXgTWG+N7Ktz7YGy+ZX8Mv81645wmA5sZopP4esvJOS63O00w7HEhNiRekl2aFL64gV44x4X3QA5CPmpszw4qM= ; Message-ID: <20060902095605.44906.qmail@web60616.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.252.246.35] by web60616.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 02:56:05 PDT Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 02:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless]Re: WEP Encryption a bad joke?? To: OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1241333684-1157190965=:42917" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) --0-1241333684-1157190965=:42917 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Now that is the *first* time I've learned that WiFis encryption is pretty much useless against seriouz hack attacks. They never talk about that in the media or the standard literature. If that's the case, then how is one to protect his/her WiFi setup, other than going for a (commercial) VPN?!? Frank Vos wrote: Hello Rick, On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 23:42:06 -0700 (PDT), Rick R. wrote: >While in the process of building a USB memory stick bootable OS/2 system I also decided to dump some Linux distro on there. > In the process of research I found that there are ready2write bootable USB Linux distros with modules that claim they can > hack even into 128 WEP encryption from an ordinary laptop w/o any added user intervention. > They gave no specifics about the time required, but state that a few captured packages would do the trick. > Now can that be and if so, then what is the much hailed WEP encryption actually worth??? Not much, it can prevent accidental access to your network by your neighbours, but if they really want to get in they can. See http://www.os2warp.be/index2.php?name=wifi2#6.2 for an explanation about this. WEP was designed by technicians, not by security experts. In the Netlabs newsletter I saw that they have WPA encryption working for OS/2, but they didn't release it yet. I use WPA encryption, because I have a Asus WL330g wireless adapter. Kind regards, Frank =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to Send administrative queries to To subscribe (new addresses), E-mail to: and reply to the confirmation email. This list is hosted by Rosenthal & Rosenthal P.O. Box 281, Deer Park, NY 11729-0281. Non- electronic communications related to content contained in these messages should be directed to the above address. (CAN-SPAM Act of 2003) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. --0-1241333684-1157190965=:42917 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Now that is the *first* time I've learned that WiFis encryption is pretty much useless against seriouz hack attacks.
They never talk about that in the media or the standard literature.
If that's the case, then how is one to protect his/her WiFi setup, other than going for a (commercial) VPN?!?
 


Frank Vos <os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com> wrote:
Hello Rick,
On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 23:42:06 -0700 (PDT), Rick R. wrote:

>While in the process of building a USB memory stick bootable OS/2 system I also decided to dump some Linux distro on there.
> In the process of research I found that there are ready2write bootable USB Linux distros with modules that claim they can > hack even into 128 WEP encryption from an ordinary laptop w/o any added user intervention.
> They gave no specifics about the time required, but state that a few captured packages would do the trick.
> Now can that be and if so, then what is the much hailed WEP encryption actually worth???
Not much, it can prevent accidental access to your network by your
neighbours, but if they really want to get in they can. See
http://www.os2warp.be/index2.php?name=wifi2#6.2 for an explanation
about this. WEP was designed by technicians, not by security experts.
In the Netlabs newsletter I saw that they have WPA encryption working
for OS/2, but they didn't release it yet. I use WPA encryption, because
I have a Asus WL330g wireless adapter.

Kind regards,
Frank


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